Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby Ma » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:12 am

Pete wrote:Wonder why that is? :wink:



Because some of us are vertically challenged lol, and the last thing i want at a concert, is some 6ft fat bastard stood right infront of me, which seemed to happen at almost every concert i have been to lol, although a good, hard kick in the back of the leg usually sorts that, or a firm "fu*k OFF" from FJ helps too :wink: :lol:
For me personally, seats are the way to go.
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby RippingFleshFromBone » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:47 pm

Father Jack wrote:Lets be honest here, its not just kiss fans that are to blame. Today's breed of "rock fan" is a flimsy, pathetic shadow of what rock fans were in the 70's / 80's and early 90's. If you even dare move, jump around, fart or do anything that involves knocking them whilst they're filming on their mobile phones then you're a nasty man and shouldn't be there in the first place. How very dare you even consider paying money to have a good time ??
There are also a lot of biddies at shows now who are trying desperately to recapture an aspect of their lives now long gone, but still can't help themselves have a moan at the youngun's for daring to stand up and partially block their pefect line of sight.
Times have changed since the 80's when as Adam states, it was luck of the draw if you got your ribs broken at a concert. The advent of the internet, youtripe & multiple live band dvd's has lost a lot of what concert going should be about. People now expect a generic replica of a show the same as they would sat at home in their comfy chair watching it on their tv.
Still, as long as we have the likes of Adam (and Bay) ploughing their way to the front at kiss shows, those concerts will at least have an element of danger......well, they will for those poor shits in the way. :lol:

TOO RIGHT!!!! But as I always said...if you want to be down the front, expect a bit of 'push n shove. Otherwise fu*k off to the back!!

True story time. KISS Wembley on the Psycho Circus tour. Got in late and had to do the wiggle through peeps to get down the front. Got maybe 10 rows back and I was jumping up n down like a loon. Got to Deuce and PS even saw me going nuts pointed straight at me, gave me the thumbs up and threw his pick at me! Fuckin A!!! And yes I did get the pick!

BUT! There was this group of 4 or 5, say late teens early 20's, to my left standing round like fuckin maniquins. I felt this strange pain in my left arm. Stopped jumpin around, looked at my arm to see this fuckin bint in the group biting me!!! Looked at her and she tells me stop jumpin around cos I'm annoying her!! My responce? "fu*k Off, this is a KISS show not a fuckin tea party!" She said something back so I just told her boyfriend and the peeps with her to get away from me cos I ain't stoppin (not in those words tho!!!), then went back to being a loon!!!

They moved away!!!!

By the end of the show I was in the 2nd row... :D
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby Gojira1975 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:16 pm

RFFB an FJ bang on the money here.
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby TONYSOUTH » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:39 pm

Just got back from the Pub (and pissed) but it's good to see some people still know how to have a good time at a gig, let's just hope we can enjoy a show in the uk this year and show people how to party at a KISS concert, if not see you in Zurich, tickets booked and ready to rock :evil: :twisted: :wink:
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby madmark » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:31 am

Maybe next meet up we should specifically choose a pub full of shy retiring librarian type KISS fans and do what we do best..... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby TONYSOUTH » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:50 am

madmark wrote:Maybe next meet up we should specifically choose a pub full of shy retiring librarian type KISS fans and do what we do best..... :lol: :lol:


I'm up for that (never been to a meet up before) but can I first get over my hangover from last night, I head is banging this morning and feel like sh*t :o not
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby starchildmark » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:53 am

I have met loads of peeps off here at meet ups and i must say it is always awesome.
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby TONYSOUTH » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:18 am

nicksmithworld wrote:Gene's new persona is called the 'stockbroker' - an avaricious, night beast who steals all of the money out of your pockets..well he scares the shit out of me.. :wink:


You maybe right see below from Cameron Adams | News.com.au, if you cashed out for all the good and sh*t stuff Gene as put out, the concerts and M&G you would be in Bankruptcy or divorce court

KISS rocker Gene Simmons is charging fans up to $1500 to hear him talk about himself.
The 63-year Simmons has added a speaking engagement in Melbourne during Kiss’ tour next month.
Tickets to hear Gene Simmons range from $1500 for platinum seats to $285 for gold seats and $108 for the cheap seats.The speaking tickets are more expensive than those to see Kiss perform live with support acts Motley Crue and Thin Lizzy.
Only one hundred of the $1500 tickets will be sold, which include a lunch package with Simmons in attendance for two hours, a photograph with Simmons and one item signed as long as it is not a guitar.
Cashed up Kiss fans also get a t-shirt which reads “I had lunch with Gene Simmons” for their $1500.
The speaking engagement takes place at Etihad Stadium on March 5 from 10.45am, requiring many fans to take the day off work.
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby alexmai » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:38 pm

Gene lost it in 1978. Maybe before, in my opinion...

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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby Dan bach » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:38 pm

This is slightly off-topic raised by the thread maker.
But I think it's related.

Anyone who knows me ... knows I love a gig = literally travelling the world to see a band.

I purposely didn't book any of the Euro shows that were being announced peacemeal every week - in the hope that a "Blighty" gig would be announced. On the Sonic Boom tour, I deliberately did the "provinces" and not the Olde Smoke because I thought on the next tour they would only do a good "olde London town shindig".

With no UK tour date on the horizon, I am feeling very, very jadded. "Am I bothered" in chasing a ticket for the Euro shows? At this precise moment - I am not.

What is at the root of this apathy, this is what has me puzzled.

International gig travelling is now - so piss easy.
1) Ticket on day of release,
2) google cheapish and/or localised accom
3) Flights or travel logistics from the Uk to where the gig is.

I appreciate people might reply to this and say "c'mon Dan do the Kruise". But I'm not a big cruise person and nothing personal to those who do the Kruise - but I think I'd be ready for the loonhouse - If I was shut in/on a massive boat with 3,000 other rabid KISS fans for five days. KISS for breakfast, lunch and supper ... KISStory morning, noon and night ... KISS merch work, rest and play.
(I appreciate that I haven't explained this very well, and I'm not intending to insult anyone)

So perhaps 2013 will be my KISS no gig year. The only other year I missed and there was a KISS gig was 1997 Finsbury Park - when a dear friend's wedding clashed with the KAOS in the Park. (May 1976 and September 1980 = I wasn't a KISS fan in 1976 and Mum banned me from attending Deeside Leisure Centre in 1980).

But on the very positive side - I'm still loving Monster album and the Casablanca Years box set is ripped on my pc and now I have two audio cdrs for the car; non-stop KISS down through the years 8) Listening to those discs constantly.

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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby madmark » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:05 pm

Dan , The Kruise isn't as bad as you think. In fact it's brilliant..There are another 6-7 bands , and loads of other things to do , honestly... KISS do 3 gigs and then it's a free for all...Hang out , go to any of the 10(!) restaurants..AND ABOUT 10 BARS! Watch any band and they usually start the gigs at about 11am. There are bars ,inside and out , and BBQ's everyday from about 12pm... Pools , gyms , one of the inside bars shows KISS 24-7 if that's your thing...OR just relax in your cabin with a book .! They have TV.. as well .. (or do as I did and steal all the photos you should have paid for) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: !!!
By the way ,is anybody going this year who didn't go last? :wink:
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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby Hutchie » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:41 pm

Can anyone who has done the Kruise give me a rough estimate of the TOTAL cost that they incurred, ie with the cruise, flights, pocket money, extra accommodation etc??? Cheers.

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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby gareth » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:37 pm

I've just read though these posts with interest, and I do tend to agree there is less raw energy from the fans at Kiss gigs now, than there was in years gone by.

But I don't blame the fans or the band.........I blame the internet.


Until fairly recently, if you wanted to see the spectacle of a Kiss concert, you had to get your ass to one....but these days, everyone and his dog has seen what goes on at the shows, either on the net or on DVD's etc, or even on forums such as this.

Therefore, nothing is a surprise anymore, even before the first chord is struck these days, 90% of the audience is already aware of what the set-list will be, and knows exactly just what to expect, both musically and visually.......but thankfully, it never used to be like that!


Some may not agree, but that's just my take on it.

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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby Pjcity » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:39 pm

Hutchie wrote:Can anyone who has done the Kruise give me a rough estimate of the TOTAL cost that they incurred, ie with the cruise, flights, pocket money, extra accommodation etc??? Cheers.


I would be interested in knowing the rough cost of a Kruise to find out if its a possibility especially as I haven't booked any Kiss tickets for this tour yet?......

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Re: Has Gene Simmons lost the demon character?

Postby madmark » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:43 am

Pjcity wrote:
Hutchie wrote:Can anyone who has done the Kruise give me a rough estimate of the TOTAL cost that they incurred, ie with the cruise, flights, pocket money, extra accommodation etc??? Cheers.


I would be interested in knowing the rough cost of a Kruise to find out if its a possibility especially as I haven't booked any Kiss tickets for this tour yet?......

Chaps , have a look at Kissonline for the cost of cabins first they start quite reasonably at about $750 if 4 people are sharing but they sell out very quickly and they don't have a porthole or any daylight , (ask Ian!) . Mrs Mad and myself get a cabin with a balcony , not cheap , but it means that i can have a fag when I want and not have to go all the way outside. We pay for ours with a monthly debit from the bank so it makes it easier to manage , instead of a lump sum.
Have a peep at Norwegian Cruises website to see all the restaurants as 60-70% are free and serve up really nice stuff (last year the first night in one was Lobster night!) ,so you don't have to worry about that at all.
Yer main 'thing' is going to be the booze... If you stick with beer you should be OK! my Bar bill for the Kruise was about $700 Inc mrs Mad ,but she's not a big drinker and of course the amount you drink is up to you ,BUT as you aren't paying for it in the here and now it's easy to overdo it slightly!. They will also add on any merchandise and sundries you buy,and they add about $12 a day for the staff as gratuities.so on the last day I paid about $850. (I think Karls was $1200 or so but his wife Jasmine is an Alki!!!! :lol: :lol: Just Joking both of you! :D :wink: )
The photoshop also sells loads of photos for the entire journey , as they are taking piccies of everything the whole time...and they charge for them but I don't know how much , I suppose about $10-20 each, but I didn't worry about that as I stole any pictures anybody wanted (I must have taken about 30 ,and I'm not even a scouser , sorry TSTB!)
Flights are also dependent on who you go with but look at about £400-600 return .
The Holiday Inn in Miami is doing a very good rate for KissKruisers (Thanks Ian!) of just under $160 per room per night for up to 4 people so think about who to team up with.
Chuck in spending money in Miami for a day or 2 before and after for food and souvenirs etc , and a taxi from the airport if you don't know yer way around. If you want to save money the Metro system gets you there with one change , for about $3.
So all in all if you go on a bender (me) and then buy loads of souvenirs (Mrs Mad) ... about £1700 - £2000 all in = flights ,cruise, booze , hotel , souvenirs plus theres always a couple of extras here and there...AND it depends on how long you hang around before and after the Cruise too...,. BUT BUT BUT , you can do it for a LOT less if (unlike some of us , looking at you Lieutenant Dan!!! :lol: ) you show a little self control... :wink:
Chuck in TONS of fun , loads of mates and laughs and loads of music and as the TV advert says ,= PRICLESS! I hope I may have possibly tempted you? It really depends on yourself and how much you want spend while you're there.
Any Questions? Hopefully someone else will chuck in some more info for you , but I promise you ,it's the trip of a lifetime and you will have such a blast ,by the time you get off the ship saying teary goodbyes to all ,the only thing you will say to each other is " SEE YOU NEXT YEAR!" :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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