the-bar-is-set-too-high-for-young-rock-bands?

[nicksmithworld]

warren-haynes-says-the-bar-is-set-too-high-for-young-rock-bands

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Has'nt he got a point, when Led zepplin and Deep purple and sabbath started out, there was nothing of that ilk to compare them too. The stage was clear for them to make their mark.Now, everything is compared to what has gone before..not a level playing field..

Also record companies sign a band, they make one album, and if they don't get a return on their investment -they drop them like a stone..what happened to artist development??

[skinnymartin]

I agree. They are also competing with the constant stream of instant stars inning pointless talent shows based on karaoke skills alone who are hte people everyone seems to want to rise to the top, despite the fact that they have no depth to their ability or any uniqueness because they hven't spent the time on the road developing and nurturing their skills and talent.

I could write an essay on this. But, the flip side is that there doesn't seem to be much unique in Rock any more - loads of new stuff I like - but where are the bands emerging that are at the forefront of a new genre - the new punk? Maybe new bands should stop trying to sound like others and just play what they like.

There are not enough new bands that ooze energy and drive (one of the reasons I like Falling Red and liked Towers of London's early stuff).

[Pete]

Plus the X Factor guarantees record labels an instance return on their investment. Why spend money on a band when you can use the TV to find you next (disposable) hero.cash cow...

[skinnymartin]

Plus the X Factor guarantees record labels an instance return on their investment. Why spend money on a band when you can use the TV to find you next (disposable) hero.cash cow...

Word Bro.
The vile thing that is the X-fact puts Simon Cowell in a win-win situation. Rather than a couple of years of promoting a new artist through gigging etc. all he needs to do is sit on his arse on a Saturday night, sort the good dross out from the really awful dross, in a way that makes a profit out of nothing but over-hyped karaoke and then make about 6 months worth of profit by exploiting someone before they find themselves on the shelf because their lack of genuine x-factor becomes all too apparent.

[Mr.Spireite]

Well my brothers band has been signed to a small label but he knows he ain't gonna be a megastar but he has been working with a band for 10 years plus now so if he did say for example manage to get a single or album in the charts would it be classed as an overnight success ?

X-FActor and these programs really do more harm than good for the industry for me as they will NEVER promote a band who write original music because at the moment labels are fixated with making more of a cut from an artist which involves continually recycling the songs that they currently get a percentage from.

You can't fault Cowell et al, it's the stupid public that laps all this dross up.

[Father Jack]

Kill them all.
Rock music needs to go underground again. Real musicians get no credibility these days, bands get no credibility. In fact, those cretinous yoiks who appear on Shit Factor are classed as 'bands'. WTF ???

People are so used to being spoon fed shite these days its near on impossible for their fu*ked up brains to comprehend making an independant decision based upon their own thoughts which is how Cowell & his satanic ilk milk these talentless wonders for all they can before ultimately fuc*ing them off back to shelf stacking or working in McDonalds to pick up the pieces of their lives and at the same time try to hang on to what thread of stardom they thought they might have by appearing on such glamourous tv shows like Come Dine With Me, etc.
When the general public stops being so apathetic and starts wanting change things will happen. Until then Cowell & his cronies wil only get richer & force more talentless dross down our throats.

[AxeBass]

Has'nt he got a point, when Led zepplin and Deep purple and sabbath started out, there was nothing of that ilk to compare them too.

Which is why the Beatles are so massively overrated. They were first and could do whatever they wanted and yet they still sang about a f+ckin yellow submarine....

People are so used to being spoon fed shite these days its near on impossible for their fu*ked up brains to comprehend making an independant decision based upon their own thoughts which is how Cowell & his satanic ilk milk these talentless wonders for all they can before ultimately fuc*ing them off

I don't see how that is any different to the days of Stock Aitken & Waterman except the auditions are in public and not who is prepared to suck those 3 off. Those 80's and 90's acts were just as shite and shortlived. The general public have always been a bit stupid when it comes to entertainment and things havent changed that much from the Generation game to Ant and Decs takeaway .... its all shite in a different package.

Free music and the internet is a bigger problem, the cash isnt in it and without instant success (which very few rock/metal acts have ever achieved without putting in years of touring) there is not enough people out there to invest in non-mainstream talent.

[Father Jack]

Yes, its been going on for over 20 years but with SAW it wasn't as blatant as it is today.

And The Beatles may have sung about a Yellow Submarine but it was better than anything the shite of today could possibly come up with.

[hywelkidd]

Yes, its been going on for over 20 years but with SAW it wasn't as blatant as it is today.

And The Beatles may have sung about a Yellow Submarine but it was better than anything the shite of today could possibly come up with.

You mean better than the masterpiece that is Sawgger Jagger