Entertainment USA (1982)

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This interview, whilst very short, provides a very rare chance to see both Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent talking on UK television. The interview was taken by Jonathon King sometime in 1982. Material on this page was taken from 'Entertainment USA - The Video' (1986). At the bottom of the page is a funny behind-the-scenes story...

Listen to the entire interview in Real Audio 5.0.

[JK]
The Superdome, the inhabitants of New Orleans claim it's the largest covered building in the world. The people that live in Houston say 'no no', it's the Astrodome that's bigger. The people in New Orleans say you can fit the Houston Astrodome inside the Louisiana Superdome.

Here it's laid for a party for 5000 people would you believe. Sometimes there are ball games inside and you have hundreds of thousands of people, (I think a hundred thousand is about the most) and tonight there's a KISS concert - KISS the rock band are performing in the Superdome. I asked them what they thought of the current music scene.

[VV]
Everything is, er, changing, there's heavy metal for everyone still and I think the wave has gotten more commercial and I enjoy it, I really do. I enjoy everything, I love all kinds of music.

[JK]
Gene, you appear to be doing something awful to him over there, if we can separate you from that for a minute.

[GS]
I'm pinching his butt!
(NB See below for the true story about this!)

[VV]
Do you know how hard it is to keep a straight face when someone's pinching your butt?

[GS]
It's my job!

[JK]
Gene, how about your attitude to the current rock scene? What do you think of all the new English music that's coming through, all the synthesiser stuff?

[GS]
Well first I'd like to state that I hate all living things, that's to start off with, then, I think it's great, I really do. It's nice to see shorter people playing little instruments out of little amplifiers, it's all very healthy, very good. But we're big people and we like to play out of big instruments, DON'T YA KNOW THAT?

[Clip from live version of 'Creatures Of The Night' was shown here]
[EC]
Yeah, you know you can go out on the streets and be fairly unnoticed and be kinda regular if you want. Now, that is not to say, exclamation point, that when we go out we're totally unnoticed. I mean you know, we look a little strange and not like the ordinary people that are around us. You know, we don't look like you! (Pointing to Jonathon).

[PS]
Eric favours red dresses!

[EC]
I favour red dresses and spiked heals!

[JK]
Paul, one of the things that makes your shows so successful are the incredible special effects, have you any idea how much they cost?

[PS]
Erm, I have no idea how much it costs, but it sure is fun! I think all that stuff makes something better and it makes the show more dynamic but a rotten group is a rotten group with all the effects in the world. I mean lately we've had to do a few shows without anything except the amplifiers and the lights and it was still three encores and everybody still went crazy. I think ultimately what's most important is music.

[JK]
The music's what counts?

[PS]
Well sure, the rest is only going to enhance it.

[JK]
That's KISS in concert, one of the best live bands I've ever seen, even if now they've sadly abandoned their make-up.


And now for the true story behind the 'butt-pinching' (thanks to Si Cosson)...

Jonathon King used to write an E USA column in the top rag "The Sun" - I'm not sure if you'd remember or know of it, but he happened to mention one week about the KISS interview (from a few years previous) and how he was buds with (Top Sausage) Gene. When the film crew were backstage recording the sesh, it became apparent that they only had one reel of film left and that was the one in the camera. When Gene got wind of this he started sodding around with Vinnie. The final cut which was aired showed Gene pinching Vinnie's butt right? - But the full view and full story which was not shown, would reveal that Gene actually un-fastened Vinnie's trousers, and he finished the question and answer sesh with his strides around his ankles, and the director didn't feel confident that they had enough film to re-shoot!

And another Jonathon King story from The Sun (again, thanks to Si Cosson)...

In typical JK style, the piece started,"A good friend of mine Gene Simmons of New York Rock Band KISS" (Why is anyone famous that he knows always "A good friend?")... and old flame Diana Ross had lunch in a top floor restaurant in LA. The lunch time service was very busy, and the restaurant packed, and the "Muso's" request for a table near(er) a window was unfortunately declined due to table reservations. So, not to be out done, Gene took it upon his own judgement to pick up the table and place it at a suitable spot next to a window by himself!

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