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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby daniel3786 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:04 pm

plugfooty wrote:
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nicksmithworld wrote:but neither of you have revealed your name and surname and where you reside :roll: my point exactly Doh!! :shock: :?


I don't get how putting your full name and where you reside will help anyone, what does that mean, your gonna trace where people live and beat them up? :?

Forums should be anonymous for the most part and only if you know other members personally it is fine to be on first/last name terms, I for one would not be happy giving my full name and location out to total strangers.

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby nicksmithworld » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:53 pm

as per usual - sarcasm, piss-taking but NO actual solutions.... :roll:
feel free to feel offended, cyber-bullied, put out, outside of the clique, side-lined, marginalised or just generally have the piss taken out of. However it's a JOKE!-Nick's Mirth World!

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby acesmiddlefinger » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:17 pm

Nice idea Pete,but seriously i think the forum is fine the way it is.Ive always enjoyed coming on the forum and dont think ive ever really upset anyone with my views on KISS.Basically i come here because i idolise the band,whilst i may read some really way out there posts i wouldnt dream of reacting to the obvious attempts that some people make to gain a reaction.During my time following this band through the good times and so called bad ive realised that no two KISs fans see it all the same,reason being we have had it all...Bloody spoilt we are!!
If i ever turn up at a KISS/related gig, even other band's gigs its more than likely id run into a fellow forumee,a handshake and a chat is the norm,for me thats whats part of being a forum member is all about.Its merely the tool to cement the camerarderie(sp) that exists between KISS fans.Ive been lucky enough to see KISS in other countries and share these unforgettable memories with fellow forum members,why shoud anything change that??? Its true that lately things have gotten tetchy,at my age i tend to find myself smiling at some of the comments,life is way too short to be falling out about such petty things...
In the past ive had disagreements with a couple of members on the forum who didnt agree with my opinions,its no big deal i,ll gladly discuss it with them sensibly over a beer and hopefully have a laugh about it at the same time.
As for giving out my name and address, i wouldnt be worried in the slightest,ive nothing to hide and have complete trust in the many friends ive made on the forum!

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby Kev » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:25 pm

acesmiddlefinger wrote:In the past ive had disagreements with a couple of members on the forum who didnt agree with my opinions,its no big deal i,ll gladly discuss it with them sensibly over a beer and hopefully have a laugh about it at the same time.




THATS one of the best posts in ages.

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby Pete » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:14 pm

nicksmithworld wrote:as per usual - sarcasm, piss-taking but NO actual solutions.... :roll:


So what do YOU want then Nick?
How can we improve (if needs be) the forum? What solutions do you want to see?
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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby The Hendon Kiss Army » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:41 pm

Great post AMF...

I also enjoy this forum a great deal. Really don't like it when it turns nasty, and one of the strenthgs when I first joined was the friendliness and excitement that was generated on here.

Good moderation is vital, I suffered a few years ago on The Sweet forum when everyone was having a free for all attacking my wife in a ost vicious way, and it took ages for it to be withdrawn. Good to see the porn crap a few months ago was deleted sharpish. Belive it or not some dutch sweet fan posted pictures of himself being poohed upon! Its amazing what people will try and pop on forums.

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby Acebwfc66 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:45 pm

It isnt a private forum and I aint one of the facetube, mybook generation. So Norman from Bolton will have to do.

Happy about the extra moderation and hopefully a gentle reminder to people who transgress should do the ticket. Lets learn to play nice together. Im sure that most people would think about what affect their post had then say sorry, but if we all dive in with both feet as if its a war all the time then people will feel backed into a corner.

Also if someone joins and posts more times than they take breaths then a moderator should keep an eye out. Has this happened before :roll:

For me that last post with the link to the video with every other word a swear word was awfull, a moderator stepped in and took action.

I dont post often but review it everyday and there is more right than wrong with this place. Good crack and good information, eg got the link to Ace tickets here and although its not even sold out yet I slept better for having the tickets sooner. Cant remember who that was but thanks from the bottom of my love pump :lol:

But every week it kicks off for very little reason. Mention which town you come from then youtube posts appear ripping into the place, etc. Little bit of rasicm from time to time - for me this isnt the place for it.

Also, this might be a struggle for some but try not to post too much when drunk as its hard to unsay things.

Any way good luck with the changes

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby Gojira1975 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:46 pm

Less mods, less censorship.
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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby kissinuk » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:11 pm

Gojira1975 wrote:Less mods, less censorship.


Please tell me you're joking? We badly needed more mods and all 9 of them are doing a fantastic job and coming up with some great suggestions (such as this thread from Pete).

As for censorship, you've mentioned this in the past, are you complaining about posts being deleted or words being asterix'd out? If it's the former then it rarely happens other than some of the crap that was posted at the weekend. If it's the later then as I've said in the past you can turn it off in your user settings. See here for more info: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6681

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby Gojira1975 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:40 pm

kissinuk wrote:
Gojira1975 wrote:Less mods, less censorship.


Please tell me you're joking? We badly needed more mods and all 9 of them are doing a fantastic job and coming up with some great suggestions (such as this thread from Pete).

As for censorship, you've mentioned this in the past, are you complaining about posts being deleted or words being asterix'd out? If it's the former then it rarely happens other than some of the crap that was posted at the weekend. If it's the later then as I've said in the past you can turn it off in your user settings. See here for more info: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6681


I've done that, yet all my posts still come out censored.
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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby Guitar Guru » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:51 pm

I kind of know where Nick is coming from
Sometimes there someone on here who maybe get a laugh at constantly having a go at one particular member or another - stalking their posts then posting shit and trying to have a pop at them, happy in he knowledge that they are anonymous , hiding behind a keyboard. You dont know who it is and why they are picking on you. It may be someone that you have upset somehow (?) or just someone who is bored with too much time on their hands wanting to be a nuisance.

Also someone could set up a second fake profile (often called a sock puppet profile) and use that to cause mischief whilst appearing to be totally innocent and sane via their main profile.
They may even argue with themself (via the second profile) just to have a sideways swipe at someone, or set up "straw man" arguments so they can tear them down
For more info on these concepts look below:
Sock Puppet : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
Straw man :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


So Nick maybe just wants a way for people to be out in the open and not hide behind a keyboard whilst slinging mud at other users of this forum.

Also I agree that an increase in moderation when these outbursts kick off may be a welcome thing as has already been stated.


We all have differences of opinion - for example:
I love KISS dearly - I love the music, the shows, the whole thing and I personally love the cool guitars that they have used over the years and I happily collect the albums, videos, DVDs, and guitars
However I can't stand some of the wider remit of the collectables - stuff that is so far removed from the core of what Kiss are as a band and is just a cash grabbing exercise in my eyes (Mr Potato Heads, dolls, etc etc)
But I know that others feel 100% passionate about that stuff and enjoy collecting, trading and owning the stuff and I support their right to do so (even though I may say it's a waste of money)
It comes down to personal choice - I would waste just as much money on other interests - clothes , guitars, going to see other bands, holidays etc and my choices are no better, but they are MY choices and I am usually happy with them.

BUT I wouldn't dream of locking horns with someone on here so badly that I would choose to post stuff to deliberately piss them off, or set up another profile to post stuff to belittle them or make a nuisance.
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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby skinnymartin » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:54 pm

Martin, Whittlesey or Nottingham depending on what day it is!!


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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby kissinuk » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:56 pm

Gojira1975 wrote:
kissinuk wrote:
Gojira1975 wrote:Less mods, less censorship.


Please tell me you're joking? We badly needed more mods and all 9 of them are doing a fantastic job and coming up with some great suggestions (such as this thread from Pete).

As for censorship, you've mentioned this in the past, are you complaining about posts being deleted or words being asterix'd out? If it's the former then it rarely happens other than some of the crap that was posted at the weekend. If it's the later then as I've said in the past you can turn it off in your user settings. See here for more info: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6681


I've done that, yet all my posts still come out censored.

Noone told me it wasn't working! Sorry about that,it now works.

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby daniel3786 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:04 pm

Guitar Guru wrote:Also someone could set up a second fake profile (often called a sock puppet profile) and use that to cause mischief whilst appearing to be totally innocent and sane via their main profile.
They may even argue with themself (via the second profile) just to have a sideways swipe at someone, or set up "straw man" arguments so they can tear them down
For more info on these concepts look below:
Sock Puppet : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
Straw man :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


A Member who started deleting his own posts and got banned (everyone knows who he is :wink: ) says he was doing just that or gave the impression he was doing it until he deleted his post.

If anyone did that I think they would be extremely sad people, but that is just my take on it.

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Re: Kissin' UK Wants YOU

Postby nicksmithworld » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:05 pm

Pete wrote:
nicksmithworld wrote:as per usual - sarcasm, piss-taking but NO actual solutions.... :roll:


So what do YOU want then Nick?
How can we improve (if needs be) the forum? What solutions do you want to see?


Moderators are a necessary evil. I am against the concept of censorship per se but as some people are unable to self-censor, it does appear to be necessary.

My ‘who you are’ idea has been taken out of context and completely misconstrued as per usual.I never said put your name and Address on a PUBLIC forum. My point, and it still stands is to NOT HIDE behind an anonymous Pseudonym

WHY for example do people NOT USE the location line in the address box far right?? Why put some facetious and Vulgar riposte “Chowing down between your girlfriend's legs” for example rather that your ACTUAL location?? This has a purpose, what have you got to hide? Because it’s easier to let rip if there is no come-back.

Why not make available everyone’s real name and LOCATION – NOT address , to MEMBERS only. If you are unwilling to do this then you can’t post? This seems fair enough to me.
feel free to feel offended, cyber-bullied, put out, outside of the clique, side-lined, marginalised or just generally have the piss taken out of. However it's a JOKE!-Nick's Mirth World!


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