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On LBC (London based talk radio station) yesterday morning the DJ (Steve Allan) said ,and I kid you not , that the next group of people in the firing line will be musicians , ie members of famous (and not-so-famous) bands.!!! How long is THAT list????? :shock: :shock:
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KISStrooper wrote:
the charges are that between September 1, 1974, and December 31, 1974, he indecently assaulted a woman who was then aged 16 or 17 years.

Between January 1, 1983, and December 31, 1983, he is accused of indecently assaulting a girl then aged eight or nine years and between July 1, 1984, and September 27, 1984, he allegedly indecently assaulted a girl then aged 13 years.

If thats right then its a little more serious than some wild claim and eight or nine year old girls is sick
I completely agree Mick. However, Im becoming slightly dispondent at how the police have managed to allow all these allegations to go unchallenged and uninvestigated for 40 years. How is that providing a responsible service to vulnerable children ? How can the police start an investigation and then suddenly brush it under the carpet or find there is no substantial evidence even though allegedly for years some of these people were known to the police as paedo's ?
In my eyes those responsible for neglecting these children are as responsible for how they've suffered as the very people who committed the offences in the first place.
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madmark wrote:On LBC (London based talk radio station) yesterday morning the DJ (Steve Allan) said ,and I kid you not , that the next group of people in the firing line will be musicians , ie members of famous (and not-so-famous) bands.!!! How long is THAT list????? :shock: :shock:
Yep, Led Zep, Slade, Sweet, T Rex, Bay City Rollers, etc, should all be shitting their pants now.
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Father Jack wrote:
madmark wrote:On LBC (London based talk radio station) yesterday morning the DJ (Steve Allan) said ,and I kid you not , that the next group of people in the firing line will be musicians , ie members of famous (and not-so-famous) bands.!!! How long is THAT list????? :shock: :shock:
Yep, Led Zep, Slade, Sweet, T Rex, Bay City Rollers, etc, should all be shitting their pants now.
I heard rumours about one of those bands a couple of years ago with the Jimmy Saville rumour at the time.

Quite agree how the rich and famous have eluded justice for all these years and those who knew this was happening should also be accountable. My missus is a foster carer and some of the social workers really havent a feckin clue !
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One man who could manipulate the press !

http://news.sky.com/story/1021671/max-c ... detectives
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Father Jack wrote: Yep, Led Zep, Slade, Sweet, T Rex, Bay City Rollers, etc, should all be shitting their pants now.
Chris Denning, Tam Paton, Derek Longmuir, Jonathon King... just some of the ones that have already been done. Plenty more to be convicted yet.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20981611

Jimmy Savile scandal: Report reveals extent of abuse
Children as young as eight were abused by Jimmy Savile, a report detailing 50 years of allegations has revealed.

The Met Police and NSPCC outlined offences at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street in London and Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds.

Some 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration, the report said.

The CPS apologised for missing the opportunity to prosecute Savile in 2009, while he was still alive.

Police said the victims' accounts painted a "compelling picture of widespread sexual abuse by a predatory sex offender," and Cdr Peter Spindler, who is leading the abuse probe, said Savile had "groomed the nation".

David Cameron's official spokesman said it was "absolutely right that every institution involved gets to the bottom of what has gone on".

The former BBC presenter and Radio 1 DJ died aged 84 in October 2011, a year before the allegations emerged in an ITV documentary.

Revelations that Savile had sexually abused children prompted hundreds of victims to come forward, including those who said they were attacked on BBC premises and a number of other institutions.

In response to the report, the BBC said it was "appalled" some of the offences were committed on its premises and restated a "sincere apology to the victims of these crimes".

The Giving Victims a Voice report set out the findings of Operation Yewtree, which launched three months ago to investigate the Savile abuse claims.

The 30-page document detailed a number of findings, including:

Savile offended at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street, with one offence recorded at Wheatfields Hospice in 1977
A total of 14 offences were recorded in relation to schools
Savile's youngest victim was an eight-year-old boy, and the oldest was 47
The earliest allegation is from 1955 in Manchester and the last is from 2009
Offences were carried out at the BBC between 1965 and 2006, including at the last Top of the Pops recording
Peak offending took place between 1966 and 1976
A total of 450 people have made sexual abuse allegations against Savile since October - of whom 73% of victims were under 18, with most aged 13 to 16
There is "no clear evidence" he operated in paedophile ring, although "whether he was part of an informal network" is still being investigated
The report also revealed 16 offences were committed at Leeds General Infirmary between 1965-1995 and 22 at Stoke Mandeville Hospital between 1965-88.

One offence was committed at each of the following hospitals - Broadmoor high-security psychiatric hospital, St James Leeds Hospital, High Royds Psychiatric Hospital, Dewsbury Hospital, Wycombe General Hospital, Great Ormond Street Hospital in 1971, Ashworth Hospital, Exeter Hospital, Royal Portsmouth Hospital, St Catherine's Hospital in Birkenhead, and Saxondale Mental Health.

Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt said he wanted to be able to assure NHS patients that it would be "much, much harder" for abuse on such a scale to happen again by establishing whether NHS procedures were to blame.

He told BBC Radio 4's World at One programme that the scale of the challenge for the NHS's investigation into Savile's abuse on its premises was "absolutely huge" because it would cover a period of about 40 years.

Labour shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper called for "a proper overarching review led by child protection experts into why everyone failed to stop Savile and what should be done now."

"A myriad of small reviews and inquiries into how it could happen in different hospitals or the BBC are just not enough," she said.

The Crown Prosecution Service also published a review of a decision in 2009 not to charge Savile with sexual offences in relation to four complaints made to police in Surrey and Sussex.

It found there was "nothing to suggest" the decisions were "consciously influenced by any improper motive on the part of either the police or prosecutors".

However, it said further action might have been possible had "police and prosecutors taken a different approach", adding the CPS prosecutor "did not probe... or seek to build a prosecution".

If those coming forward had "been told that she was not the only woman to have complained, they would probably have been prepared to give evidence".

Director of public prosecutions Keir Starmer apologised on behalf of the CPS. He said the report represented a "watershed moment" and pledged to enhance information sharing and provide prosecutors with additional training for the future.

The Department of Health said the Savile report showed the need to "learn lessons from his crimes" and the findings would feed into its own investigation.

Great Ormond Street Hospital called the report "extremely distressing," adding the allegation relating to the hospital was "not reported at the time and therefore neither the police nor GOSH hold any records relating to the matter".
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latest celebrity charged Friday night but not named yet...can you tell who it is yet?
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KISStrooper wrote:latest celebrity charged Friday night but not named yet...can you tell who it is yet?
PLEASE don't let it be him!!!!! If it is , then you might as well charge Julian Clary with banging Helen Mirren... :shock:
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madmark wrote:
KISStrooper wrote:latest celebrity charged Friday night but not named yet...can you tell who it is yet?
PLEASE don't let it be him!!!!! If it is , then you might as well charge Julian Clary with banging Helen Mirren... :shock:
yep sorry Mark but looks like it is.The Leveson enquiry is being used to stop him being named allegedly, but its common knowledge now and another part of childhood drops into the gutter.
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How is it he was dragged in months ago and released without charge less than 5 hours later ?
Its become a nonsense now.
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